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Nader Sadek (Nader Sadek)

Interview with Nader Sadek from Nader Sadek
by Abir Kalai at 14 February 2015, 10:41 PM

After the venomously power-driven “In The Flesh” released 2011 with its original theme and concept, the death metal supergroup NADER SADEK is back with a promising EP “The Malefic: Chapter III” and a lot more! Metal Temple's Abir Kalai was glad to chat with the mastermind, Nader Sadek for more in depth about his innovative approaches.

Hello Nader Sadek, and welcome to our Metal Temple interview!

Hello, thank you for inviting me!

Any follower would notice the unusual concept of the band named after its director!

Yeah, it basically started as an art project for me. I make different things, but everything I do starts with a concept. And basically the concept explains what the medium is, that I’m going to use to express this concept. And most of my work revolves around the idea of petroleum and the fascination I have with it, because the petroleum is that thing that is cooking in the depth of the Earth, and black, and the man who found a way to extract it, and great energy out of it and basically we’re now dependent on it. And I see it as a kind of a metaphor for worshipping it, and worshipping something that’s black and made of dead things under the Earth. It’s been creating the reason the wars that are happening. You know countries are fighting over it. And it’s kind of like an entity that’s been worshipped and fought over, and it’s actually bad for the environment. There are other ways to create energy, especially now. I’m not condemning it, I’m just fascinated by it. So, for each sculpture, each artwork or whatever I’m doing, there’s a concept in itself, tied to petroleum so when I wanted to make “In The Flesh” – I mean the latter was just one of the projects, just one of the things that I make and produce – and you know it was an unexpected turn into becoming an actual band because in the beginning I didn’t know whether the musicians were going to get along. I didn’t know what potential or opportunity they might add so I wanted to give it a band name and we kept trying to come up with names and finally, the already established writing theme was “In The Flesh” so giving it a name was kind of starting over so we decided to name it Nader Sadek.

Amazing how you answered my question about the petroleum theme before I even ask it! So please tell us how you started “metalling” (sort of), how you could leave Egypt to pick up a boulot for Mayhem, for I also live in the Mena region and I can tell you for sure that we don’t stumble upon successful bands or even metal heads making it to the top abroad.

I’m a very lucky guy you know, I mean you also have to make your own luck and try to be in the right place at the right time, you know I dreamed big, just had to find a way to get there: I started contacting people kind of like going to parties … You know being true to myself and understanding what I am, and that I have a responsibility to make things unique to pull more people into it (audience or collaborators). I’m also very aggressive which is actually a weakness! So that got me in trouble a lot actually. You know, a mixture of all these things I think, that make me able to do something I wouldn’t dream of doing.

Awesome! So apparently you pulled strings that resulted in the coming of Steve Tucker from the very Morbid Angel. How could you get in touch with him?

I just went on Morbid Angel’s website and I looked up for members and past members. On the past members profile there was an e-mail address so I sent him an email.

Your first album “In The Flesh” seems heavily influenced by Morbid Angel’s style. Is it a consequence of having Tucker among the lineup or was it your choice at first?

No, Tucker was in Morbid Angel for many years and he helped create their sound, so you’re hearing Morbid Angel but you’re hearing a lot of Tucker himself: that his style and it’s great! Basically I think there are a lot of ideas that are unfinished from those days in Morbid Angel and throughout the years maybe he like finished them in his head. That goes with the songs he presented me with, and they fit the atmosphere so they worked and it was great!

You’ve recently released the EP “The Malefic: Chapter III” and it shifted to a more grim style with one pack of tracks melted together rather than the more technical approach of the previous material, So is it about accomplishing more musical maturity or simply a change of band members?

What we wanted to do this time was to go for a more rock structure in the structure – not in any way like rock riffs, or anything like that- basically with “In The Flesh” and a lot of Death Metal bands, there’s a lot of riffs that are one after the other and that’s a very useful tool to create chaos – I mean that metal thing – but we wanted to make it with a few riffs with then returns to those riffs and there’s so much going on but it’s different every time the riff comes back. That keeps it interesting but also the riffs are so well thought-out that they don’t become boring. I think it’s like great riffs that fit together and come back, because a lot of times there’s this one really cool guitar part then it goes somewhere else before returning.

So speaking of it, how do you compose your music? Is it a collective task or the brainchild of Nader Sadek himself?

No, basically for the most parts I write the lyrics. And you know I’m actually not a musician, but I do believe in creative freedom, pushing boundaries and trying different things. And because of that I experiment with music and try to come up with melodies, and these melodies are presented to Rune (Eriksen, Guitars) and Flo (Mounier, Drums) and we create a song out of it but in “In The Flesh” I actually wrote an entire song “Nigredo In Necromance” and I co-wrote “Petrophilia” with Rune. And in “The Malefic” I co-wrote “Deformation By Incision” but for the most part of it It’s Rune And Flo but it’s also not just them, I actually bring them together and they jam. And when they jam, the process is very organic because Rune would come up with a riff, Flo would play drums to it and add a beat which influences RUNE to come up with the next riff. And that’s why everything is really coming well and when they come up with the staff, they do it pretty fast too. Like sitting there, they can come up with two or three songs a day. So it’s a pretty exciting process to be part of and to watch unfold.

Your band didn’t follow the cliché tendency of Mena bands employing ethnic elements and scales; instead you opted for the technique rather than the atmosphere.

It’s very tempting to do something like that. Actually there might be one riff in the next album that will have something like that but it’s not gonna be ethnic or have some crazy instruments in it, Middle Eastern… But I think the atmosphere for me - the way I see the album - is that it goes following a gradient from very brutal to atmospheric. And the atmosphere is the vibe of the concept, the main theme of this album, so I don’t think it’s necessary to bring in music that doesn’t fit my concept the way I’m bringing in my culture and background. And with the unique thing that I offer, is that I don’t see that would help.

What about your upcoming project?

“The Malefic: Chapter III” implies that there’s II and I, they’re both gonna be EP’s. We’ll be doing like three EP’s story art. There is one EP that has already been recorded, but still needs some more recording, mixing and mastering, and a third EP that we’re writing right now and they’re going to be Chapters II and I of “The Malefic”. We’ve just released III, because the atmosphere of the music that was played fits conceptually with sort of the emotions that’s happening within the story line of “The Malefic”, so for the finale or the conclusion , this is why III was released first.

You currently live in Egypt (as I can hear the sound of the buses) so how can you manage the band from a distance?

I was living in NY for the longest time and I realized after a while that the fact that everyone is away from each other doesn’t matter. Right now I just feel a lot more relaxed in Egypt so you know, it’s just e-mails and then we meet somewhere so it doesn’t matter.

So a word to say for those believe yet that are many metalheads who can go past the phase of playing music on a whim?

You have to really believe in yourself and just keep doing what you love without compromise. Find your own path, that’s the most important thing so you have a happy soul.

Metal Temple is really glad to have you for this interview! Any final thoughts?

Yeah, I wanted to talk about the concept of “The Malefic”, that was pretty different. A pretty big departure for me, because I wrote the lyrics. And to write the lyrics I had to first come up with phrasings that would fit the music and that’s something I’ve never done before as it is the case for writing lyrics, so it was quite a challenge. There was one song in particular where I had a really hard time but I think it ended up being pretty good. The concept was also a big departure because it’s fantasy-based, epic, about a Necromancer who tells his family that they’re trapped in a sort of limbo, so it take it on himself to reach a divine tower and be able to control the gates of Heaven and Hell to allow to trapped souls to enter. And he gets corrupted on his journey and he ends up sending everyone to Hell including his family. So that’s obviously a very short version of it, but the lyrics are basically the things that are going through his mind or his thought s basically, but including in the CD of the release of the two other chapters, probably we’re going to re-release this one and it’s going to have a lot of artwork that is a vehicle to the story like illustrations expressing the different chapters.

Good luck with your projects, Nader and thank you for this interview!

Thanks you Abir, I really appreciate it!


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